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of that will be contingent on resolution of the fiscal cliff and the government and the economy. >> a lot of ways to measure thestrengthening enhousing market but the most direct way for momentum home buyers and sellers is prices. do you expect that trajectory to continue? >> i do.we have raised prices in a little more than half of our communities. it's been relatively modest. but as we observe and we read stats, we are getting a lit little more confident and may push prices a bit more in 2013. >> what are you finding in termsof the cost of building materials. the commodity that it takes to put up the toll brother homes. >> we are seeing that increaseas well. in 2012 we have seen the cost go up $4,500 a home. move of most of that was in the commodities. as we go to 2013 it's hard to predict. i don't think we'll see labor stay war it where it is and that will increase and the commodity as well. >> do you expect it to remaincheap the housing market. >> i do expect it to remaincheap. the fed has made that commitment to the extent that you can call it a commitment and it's in the best interest of the continued
the fiscal cliff. anyone who has not taken advantage of the homestead tax credit better act fast. if you have two days left to save hundreds of dollars at tax time. postmarked by december 31, or you will have to wait another year. its stems from legislation enacted in 2007 by the state general assembly. homeowners must apply to maintain eligibility for the credit. still ahead, aerial volunteers spent the holiday serving others. an organization will help keep hundreds and warmer this winter. and that when a missouri school did to put a smile back on their custodian's face. >> the weather is going to turn active as we had through the next of the week. partly to mostly cloudy. 36 at the airport. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say
. that is all that remains before our economy falls off the fiscal cliff. tonight we're learning congressional leaders will convene at the white house tomorrow for last-minute talks to avoid tax increases and spending cuts. kron 4's justine waldman has the latest. >> reporter: the economy is getting very close to falling off the fiscal cliff. though a last minute plan could be in the works. on friday, congressional leaders will meet with the president to discuss the standoff. obama and congressional democrats want a deal that would let tax rates rise for the wealthiest taxpayers. many republicans remain against any tax increases. the white house meeting would be the first time the president has huddled with all four leaders since november 16. the senate is back in session. majority leader harry reid is starting to sound pesimistic. >> "i have to be very honest. i don't know how it can happen now." >> reporter: the house is still on christmas break. but will meet sunday evening, a little more than 24 hours before the "fiscal cliff" arrives. but it's not clear what legislation it might consider
the approaching fiscal cliff but there's a looming deadline that could have a huge impact on the economy. >> a strike involving dock workers could happen this weekend. linda so is live at federal hill and linda this could be affecting us on down the road. >> reporter: we have the port of baltimore generating lots of money and jobs. but the longshoremen thousands of them if they go on strike sunday, everything all of the cargo that comes through the port will be affected. the stuff that's in the containers are clothes toys electronics. just to give you perspective here, 55 billion dollars worth of cargo is handled in an average month by ports on the east and gulf coast. so if a deal can't be reached by saturday, thousands of dock workers will be walking off the job sunday morning. and at issue are the large containers and the payments longshoremen get. shipping companies pay royalties to dock workers for the containers based on the weight. but they want to get rid of the royalties something longshoremen are not willing to give up. and if an agreement cannot be reached the economic impact
into the swipe of things. plus, could a tumble off the fiscal cliff hurt the markets? one trader says don't fall for the hype. first business starts now. you're watching first business: financial news, analysis, and today's investment ideas. good morning. it's friday, december 28th. i'm angela miles. in today's first look: watch your neck. the market is a head-turner. yesterday the dow dropped more than 100 points on word out of washington a resolution to the fiscal cliff was unlikely. but president obama returned early from vacation and is said to have a new proposal to offer congress, sparking a rally that left the dow down just 19 points. reports are swirling apple is moving production of its mac mini computers to foxconn plants in the u.s. apple may also be working on a smart watch. and, the new york stock exchange landed the most ipo for 2012. larry levin of trading advantage joins us now. larry, it feels like we are already hanging off that cliff. > > it definitely feels that way. everybody is obviously watching for some kind of news out of washington. that is what has moved the market eve
? >> well, it's funny how we talk about the fiscal cliff and we ignore the fact that our economy is no better off than we really were say even two years ago. for the fed to come in with 6 1/2% unemployment rate in their last meeting. it would take four to five years of 200,000 jobs per month. we are going to be nowhere near that. these politicians are using that at some sort of leverage to get what they want. we can't afford to have any trip-ups. david: i agree with you, we should be growing at 3, 4 percent not this anemic rate we're growing at, we won't be able to regain what we have lost for a long time. if we go off with the fiscal cliff, will we immediately go into a recession? >> i will go one step further, yes. i think we absolutely go into recession. that would knock between 2 and 4 percent off our gdp right away. this is the doomsday scenario, but that ten year rate now is 1.75ish. a lot of folks are calling it to 2, 2 1/2, maybe evenn3 because they are looking through rose colored lenses that i don't have. i think we could see that rate under 1% before it gets up to 2 1/
our economy back into the recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> but ali, neither side is budging much. you have been reporting on it for the last couple of hours. friday though, president obama said that he was optimistic that the two sides could reach a deal. this morning, he sounded less positive though. >> if, you know, if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still has not been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we could have had, had the republicans been willing to take the deal they gave them, and if they say that people's taxes have gone up which means consumer spending will go down. >> and keep in mind that the senate is the first hurdle. any deal has to pass the house. we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, a
, but the republicans win because the economy is going to go out yet another fiscal cliff. george w. bush is not the president. obama is the president, he is not putting forth proposals to work with republicans. he will have to take ownership of this. they need to come up with a cohesive message about real economic growth and shrinking the size of government. they don't have a message and that is going to be the big question about who wins and long-run. jon: if we go over the cliff, i mean, everyone's paycheck, just about -- come january 1, it will be shrunk because government is going to be taking a much bigger chunk out of it. that will infuriate people. are they going to be blaming president obama? >> well, they won't be blaming president obama because polls show that they are blaming republicans. republicans are not really coming to the table. we had an election, and we had an election where voters clearly supported the president. jon: he got 50.96% of the population. >> he got over 300 electoral votes. romney only have one battleground state. tons of senate victories, again in the ho
.s. economy going over the fiscal cliff. the president will meet with congressional leaders at the whiteout at about 3:00 p.m. eastern. speaker john boehner has called the house back into session sunday evening. house majority leader eric cantor is telling members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. spending majority leader says harry reid says prospects for monday are unlikely. senate majority leader believes there is still time for an agreement to be reached. >> republicans aren't about to sign a blank just just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> alistair newton joins us here as a new reuters poll shows americans blame republicans more than democrats or president obama for the fiscal crisis. 27% cited the gop is responsible. 16% blaming the president, 6% pointing to the democrats while 31% said they would blame all of the above for going over the cliff. alistair newton, you've seen the attitudes of the american people. i guess we're going over the cliff. >>
tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24 hours or so the stock market has been relatively calm sort of expecting a deal, expecting that lawmakers wi
the fact that if we go over this fiscal cliff, the press to deal economy, just barely recovering, is very strong. the risk to people is as though they are playing tug of war with the american economy and a country that's going to get hurt. beyond that, as soon as we get through to the fiscal cliff with sensible policies, but also replacing it with sensible ways to deal with the fiscal charges of the debt, it looks as though we're not going to be able to do anything to tackle those challenges right now and that is a partisan environment in washington getting worse and worse leaving us with questions about whether these guys are actually able to govern. host: that is what is written about on the front page of "the new york times" this morning. guest: i feel like we're watching a game of a finger pointing. there is little discussion of actual public policy, but both sides are shouting louder and louder that it is the other sides fault, pointing fingers. what if any other business environment work this way? both sides tried to cast blame instead of working together? at this point, the level o
the fiscal cliff. that's one of the top stories this noontime. good afternoon. i'm david stevenson. >>> we begin with developing news at this hour. san jose police are investigating the city's 46th homicide of the year. it happened at an apartment complex on lewis road off monterey highway and janine de la vega joins us from the scene. janine, we understand police may no who may be responsible -- may know who may be responsible. >> reporter: that's right. they have two adult males detained and they are questioning them and treating them as persons of interests. homicide detectives are here at the sulker breeze apartments. all of the activities seem to be centered around a parking garage. just before 9:30 this morning, they received a 911 call that a man with a gun was at the -- on the grounds. when police arrived, they found a manner in a car shot. paramedics tried to revive him. but he died on the scene. after talking to a couple of witnesses they've determined some sort of confrontation occurred with the victim and two other men. >> what happened exactly, we don't know. we're in the very
the fiscal cliff. coming up the sign the lack of deal is already hurting the u.s. economy. >>> the contra costa -- they are in the fire chief and board members. we've posted the list of times on the hot topics page of >>> people in the midwest open -- snow if flow -- and it could be that way for a few days. the deaths of more than a dozen people in several states are if if >>> the -- he was taken >>> a few hours later bart trains were held at the concord station because of a report with a man with a gun. the police activity did cause delays on the pittsburgh bay point line. those reports were not related to the earlier shooting and nothing was found. >>> the brawl that caused wide spread panic inside a mall caused -- no shots were actually fired but there was a brawl. police arrested three people. all the commotion led to a lock down and likely kept thousands of post christmas shoppers out of the mall. there is no estimate on how much money businesses lost. experts tell the sacramento bee it's likely a significant count. >>> the shortage is due top bad weather. a local crabber s
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the rest of us. he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise isn't be reached by next week on those big, unanswered issues. with both sides locked in a standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts on incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits and delay those sweeping spending cuts. while many republicans oppose new taxes for anyone, senator kay bailey hutchison says she's looking for compromise, alluding to house speaker john boehner's plan "b" that was met with stiff opposition from his own party. >> i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that, and i don't think we need that kind of shock to the system. however, i've talked to some of my democratic colleagues, and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential that we start talking about what amount can be passed on a bipartisan basis, because y
the fiscal cliff. charlie's at the live desk right now this morning with more on the battle ahead for both sides of the debate. charlie the 11th hour. >> the future, the immediate future of our taxes hang in the balance. the president and house republicans are now set to square off once more to cut a deal. with just five days remaining before the tax hikes and departmental cuts take effect. before christmas house republicans failed to pass the alternate plan instead placing the responsibility on president obama and senate democrats' shoulder. according to the "washington post" gop leaders vowed to go into session to vote on anything the democratic controlled senate approved. however speaker john boehner demanded the senate first take a look at the bill the house moved through a month ago that preserved the expiring tax cuts for the wealthy as well as the middle class. that's not likely given the president's position on raising taxes for those making more than $250,000 a year. >> i want us to not go over the cliff because i think if we do it hurts our economy and it hurts our country. >> mi
to reach a deal with poison u.s. consumer spending. the fiscal cliff would trigger tax increases and government spending cuts in january, leaving far less money in the economy. the international monetary fund warrants of knock on effects for the global economy. -- warns of knock on effects for the global economy. the pressure is on in washington to agree on a plan. only then might the applause on wall street be a little more genuine. >> with the clock ticking ever more loudly in washington, let's bring in our correspondent. first off, are the prospects of an agreement as dim as we are hearing, or could there be a last-minute deal? then of course this could happen, but i think it is quite unlikely. there is an increased pessimism that a deal can be achieved in washington, d.c. from my perspective, i think washington moves too slowly. tax rates will go for all americans, and cuts will go into effect by the end of this year, and we will see no more unemployment benefits for about 2 million americans. >> there are some technicalities here. what are the government's contingency plans?
-minute legislation doesn't stop with the fiscal cliff. our rural economy will take a big hit if the house fails to pass a farm bill. make no mistake, the farm bill is a jobs bill. agriculture supports 16 million jobs nationwide, in montana one in five jobs is tied to agriculture. and the senate farm bill supports those jobs while also cutting spending by $23 billion. this bill is part of a responsible solution. there is absolutely no excuse for inaction. i call on the house to bring the senate farm bill up for a vote immediately. our farmers and ranchers break their backs to put food on the tables every day. the least they deserve is an honest, fair, up-or-down vote on their jobs bill. failure to reach agreement on these critical year-end issues will certainly cause market volatility and shock the greater economy. experts predict failure to reach agreement on the fiscal cliff will cause the economy to contract by the year 2013 by half a percent, likely causing unemployment to climb to 9.1%, pushing our nation back into recession. but it doesn't have to be this way. mr. president, it is only bec
list again? ho ho ho! >> forget the fiscal cliff. eric: forget the fiscal cliff, what about a container cliff and what that might do to the economy. a a nasty standoff between union workers and the companies could cripple the nation. unless two groups reach a deal, theyun planted strike down plano strike this weekend.if if the strike happened, some reports estimate for a billion dollars per day. >> there's no question, use the righte words, cripple the economy. the backbone of the trade on the export and import, eric. about $100 billion or more comes in and out where you have to have these strikes. co it is very devastating and could reverberate throughout thees country. food distributors, everybody would be affected by this strike if it goesrd forward. eric: what do the unions want and what is management willing to do, how far apart are these two groups? >> normally in a dispute with the unions it is about wages and benefits in this case it is not. what the unions are objecting to with reports i have been seeingu is new work rules andort deficiencies that support systems want to put i
now and there is still no deal preventing the economy from going over that now infamous fiscal cliff. members of congress are still pointing fingers over who is to blame for the lack of progress. to prevent the tax hikes and spending cuts from aching effect january 1st. meanwhile, connecticut's independent senator, joe lieberman, expects congress to work right up until the new year's eve deadline. he's not sure that will be enough. >> it's the first time that i feel like it's more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks. they're due back later in the week. one possibility in all of this mess is a partial deal on taxes while putting off agreement on spending until some time down the road. >>> former president george h.w. bush may be spending christmas in the hospital. he's been there since thanksgiving. he's battling bronchitis and a lingering cough. doctors say he's in stable condition but needs to
kong's hang sheng added a quarter percent. a new report suggests the looming fiscal cliff is forcing consumers to lose confidence in the nation's economy. the conference board said on thursday that its consumer price index fell sharply in december for the second consecutive month. that's the lowest level since august. for the fifth consecutive year, individual investors have pulled their money out of the stock market. it's estimated to be about $380 billion. many are investing in bonds which are considered safer investments. wall street stocks sank for a fourth consecutive day. the dow lost 18 points. the nasdaq was off 4 points. >>> the housing market shows new signs of a rebound. they said on thursday that the sale of new homes increased by 4.5% from the month before. that's the fastest pace in two years. record low mortgage and stable job gains fueled the increase. >>> dangerously low water levels could force shipping to stop between st. louis and illinois on the mississippi river next week. the mississippi is suffering from months of severe drought. it does an estimated $7 billio
of $100 billion last year. as the u.s. economy moves rapidly toward falling off the fiscal cliff, president obama is about to give a final push. negotiating with congressional leaders from both political parties. from the democrat-controlled senate, top democrat harry reid, and the top republican mitch mcconnell. senator reid says there is no time to reach a deal. mr. mcconnell says he is more optimistic. then from the republican controlled house of representatives, the top republican john boehner has rejected president obama's previous offers and the morse -- most senior democrat in the house, nancy pelosi. what is the cliff and can be avoided? >> the house of representatives will be going back into session sunday but at this point we do not know what kind of measure they have before them that they can consider for a vote. there has been no indication from the white house or the republican leadership that they are anywhere near any kind of makings of a deal that they could present to the house republican leadership -- or the house republican rank-and-file who so far have been ad
the looming fiscal cliff is forcing consumers to lose coconfidence in the nation's economy. it said on thursday that its consumer price index fell sharply in december for the second consecutive month. that's the lowest level since august. for the fifth consecutive year, investors have pulled their money out of the stock market. it's estimated to be about 380 billi billion. wall street stocks safrmg for a fourth consecutive day and the dow lost 18 points. the nasdaq was off 4 points. >>> the housing market shows new signs of a rebound. they said on thursday that the sale of new homes rose by 4.5% from the month before. that's the fastest pace in two years. >>> dangerously low water levels could force shipping to stop between st. louis and illinois on the mississippi river next week. the mississippi is suffering from months of severe drought. it does $7 million of trade in february and january. >>> a potential strike by dockworkers could cost the nation millions. more than 14 long shoreman are threatened to walk out on monday. it could shut ports down from boston to houston. they move
. barring anymore drama for the fiscal cliff what is going to drive stocks higher. >> most global economies willhat quarter by 2 2012 and much of 23 will be a recovery year. also in the u.s. we are looking for 2-point 2% growth and expanding in 2014. and in an in an earnings perspee we saw the trough early this year and going into 2013 see a nine and a half percent increase in u.s. earnings for the s & p 500. >> that is encouraging becausetl up when they all come out for the fourth quarter you are expecting them to be up to 3 and a half percent so nine and a half percent is a big jump. i can see why you a optimistic on stocks. le's go over the sectors that you think could go well. you have selected three areas. consumer discretionary stocks and consumer and healthcare. tell us why. >> to continue with the story . we argeneral wehave a three andt discount. in terms of consumer discretionary and industrial we are in the favorable seasonal period i saul the call them the stocks do better. we are looking at relatively good earnings growth and from a technical persia perspective wee the mopomme
drama for the fiscal cliff what is going to drive stocks higher. >> most global economies willhave recorded their weakest quarter by 20 2012 and much of 2013 will be a recovery year. also in the u.s. we are looking for 2-point 2% growth and expanding in 2014. and in ant in an earnings perspective we saw the trough early this year and going into 2013 see a nine and a half percent increase in u.s. earnings for the s & p 500. >> that is encouraging becausethe earning you tally them all up when they all come out for the fourth quarter you are expecting them to be up to 3 and a half percent so nine and a half percent is a big jump. i can see why you are optimistic on stocks. let's go over the sectors that you think could go well. you have selected three areas. consumer discretionary stocks and consumer and healthcare. tell us why. >> to continue with the story ofthe march coat in market in gent. we aregeneral wehave a three and a half percent discount. in terms of consumer discretionary and industrial we are in the favorable seasonal period i saul them call them the stocks do better. we
or not we will be heading off the fiscal cliff. what impact will it have on the 2013 economy? we head live to times square for a special edition of bank on this. this nfl player right there losing his temper after a call by the ref. what set him off? we will tell you. first let's check in with dave briggs to see what is coming up on "fox & friends." i understand this is your last day with us. we are going to miss you. >> i will miss this place indeed. it's my fox family. a big show coming up we, too, are counting down to the fiscal cliff to new year's eve to the nfl post season on my last day as you said and clayton's birthday mind you. an update on hillary clinton's condition in just about 10 minutes join us for "fox & friends" 6-9 eastern time. >> welcome back. it is 52 after the top of the hour. let's span the globe to see what's happening in headlines. hugo chavez is reporting from new complications following his recent cancer surgery there. so far we are hearing those complications are stemming from a respiratory infection and his condition is delicate. next to northern ireland where
, the u.s. economy is on the verge of taking off. but the fiscal cliff mess could get in the way. how much could eexpect in 2013 with a deal or without a deal. well, i guess i can double check... my watch! [ male announcer ] it pays to double check, with state farm. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments until spring for qualified buyers. get the silverado for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. >>> welcome back to "your money," we welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. breaking news on the fiscal cliff. there's been a significant snag in the negotiations with just fewer than two days remaining to go. about 36 hours remaining on the countdown clock. dana bash is on capitol hill with latest. dana, what have you got? >> this kbifs you a good sense of where things stand. they're at a standstill. you
on the horizon. right now, the country's attention and that of the media is on the fiscal cliff, and i understand that. economy of the nation and the world may be at stake here. i think that sooner or later, there will be some kind of an agreement. will we are talking about here is a fundamental change in the ruling, the possibility of a fundamental change in the way the senate does business peeping basically changing the rules of the senate from either 60 votes, sometimes 67, to 51 votes, which would make as no different than -- make us no different than the house of representatives, and of course would reduce us in many respects not to irrelevance in the minority party. here is the problem. on one side, the majority leader and the democrats are frustrated by their inability to move forward with legislation. every time there is an opposition to a motion to proceed, which takes days and then they proceed, and that has made the united states congress -- one of the reasons why the united states congress is judged the least productive congress since the year 1947. so, understandably the majority is
troubles for the u.s. economy if a deal to avert the fiscal cliff cannot be reached. jpmorgan's chief u.s. economist will join us live a little later on to explain the biggest risks in his view now that investors face. we're back in two. >>> if lawmakers fail to create a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff by january 1st, federal work study will be cut by over $76 million. and over 51,000 fewer students would receive aid. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. i'd like to be optimistic. but it looks like they're going to blow. >> the real linchpin is whether john boehner can bring his troops along. that's a real tough one
of those worries about the fiscal cliff and maybe slower growth in trust economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. the smart money has been in the market. the rest of us have been worried about the fiscal cliff. >> number eight, facebook's ipo, hundreds of millions of people like facebook, but investors did not on its first day as a public company. trading glitches at the nasdaq and questions about the company's ability to make money on mobile users, pummeled the stock, which is on its way back to the ipo price. >>> number seven, mother myer. the new ceo of yahoo! who announced she was just going to take a two-week maternity leave. >> number six, mother nature, an intense drought in the midwest that scorched the corn and soy crop sending prices sky high. >> the ocean is just beyond. >> and who can forget superstorm sandy? millions of neighbors, their houses swept away without power, damages, and raising questions about infrastructure and whether we should be spending some money to fix it. >>> number five, china, is china slowing or leading the world? we do kno
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the fiscal cliff, president obama and republicans issued dueling messages on the web. >> we cannot afford the self inflicted wound to the economy. the folks you send to washington have to do their jobs. >> reporter: if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff next tuesday each side says the other is to blame. >> we can avoid the fiscal cliff if the president and the democrat-controlled senate step forward and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> reporter: all over the country right now, uncertainty is in the air. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill but is it going to deplete my savings. >> even if the impact isn't real, the perceived impact could cause a dropoff in sales. >> reporter: gets a deal is up to the top democrat and top republican. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be imperfect. that's where we are. >> reporter: harry reid and mitch mcconnell say they are confident they can
season with guarded expectations owing to the fiscal cliff and the general condition of the economy and people did come out and did buy the stuff. might not be as much as, prices might not be as high as retailers hoped but stuff will clear and probably have a pretty good final couple of days. so it is kind of a b-minus holiday season but, considering the kind of circumstances we're in, that's okay. melissa: yeah. there are people out there blaming the fiscal cliff. that seems ridiculous for, how could the fiscal cliff prevent you from going out to spend money on holiday shopping? i could see that elsewhere in the economy but seems silly for this particular comparison? >> think that is correct. people are, that is something in the future. that affected business spending but not consumers. consumer spending has been slower since the middle of the year. that was evident in the third quarter gdp report. it has been evident in the retail sales we tracked from month to month. simply wages haven't grown rapidly enough and the housing market although it has recovered, let's remember it reco
. the big worries about the fiscal cliff and how that's going to affect the economy as a whole. you look at oil prices and they have barely moved since late october. oil prices are between $85 to $90 a barrel since late october. and when oil prices stabilize for a longer time, as they have been, it gives gas prices a better chance to stabilize as well. but you look at it broadly, though, the gas prices are not falling for the the right reason. we could go back into a recession and it's those concerns for a downturn in the economy that are actually pushing prices lower. >> all right. alison kosik, live from the new york stock exchange. thank you as always. >>> the head of the national rifle association says to call him crazy for proposing more guns in schools. the nra's ceo wayne lapierre insists a ban on assault weapons won't prevent mass killings, which he blames on violent video games and the media. he says armed guns eed guards are the best way to prevent tragedies. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me craz
in our economy as well, correct? >> the view here is that if we go over the fiscal cliff the concern is there's going to be a drain on income and thereby it will rayfect the housing recovery. 50 days since the election and in that 50 days the markets haven't been essentially changed. seen some nascent improvement in the housing numbers and employment numbers and a boom in m & a activity, $270 billion in m & a, best quarter since 2008 but going over the fiscal cliff puts us at peril in terms of lower income and higher regulatory burdens and just the uncertainty. >> brian, sometimes the media gets the blame for scare mongering and i'm going to therefore try to play the other side and the devil's advocate. is there a possibility that this fiscal cliff talk is a y2k moment? in other words, it's not going to be nearly as bad as we think? >> oh, i think that's a possibility. i think maybe there's a little bit of cynicism in the market and a lot of people in the sidelines which is one of the reasons why the vix is as low as it is. compare this to the negotiations surrounding the extension o
to that grand bargain that the fiscal cliff, which is part of that $700 billion being pulled out of the economy would have been part of that overall agreement. it's not. this is not kicking the can down the road if and only if they first get the $200 billion, that is all the debt reduction we can afford this coming year and then do the grand bargain and that doesn't have to be completed until near the end of february. that's when we approach the real debt ceiling with the treasury department no longer moving around money. this has to be a one, two step process. if we do not get to the second step, however, you're spot on. this means that our policy makers don't have the political will to do what's right and that is where all credit agencies will downgrade u.s. treasury bonds and that begins the ex-orable slide down to a very sluggish economy and maybe in the longer term losing our superstar economic status. >> not to mention all this time we'll be spending on this as time that is going to be taken away from other pressing things that need to get done by the congress in this new session. thank y
have a huge impact on our economy just when it's most vulnerable to the approaching fiscal cliff. business groups and state leaders are now calling on the president to intervene, warning that a strike could really cost the country billions of dollars. if history is any indication, those warnings may be dead on. a lockout on the west coast back in 2002, remember that? lasted a total of ten days, and it cost the economy an estimated $1 billion each and every day. >>> a strike at the ports of los angeles and long beach earlier this month lasted eight days, an estimated loss of $650 million a day. a republican strategist and a former campaign aide for president george w. bush, julie roginsky is former political adviser to new jersey senate frank lautenberg. good to see you both. >> good to see you. gregg: didi, smoot-holly was passed decades ago for the purpose of putting tariff limits on incoming products. do we need to reexplore that? >> yeah. this was, this was back in the '60s. i mean, this was ancient history. why should these workers who get paid very well also get on top of th
should lawmakers fail to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> going over the fiscal cliff could have a huge impact on the local economy. thousands of people can lose their jobs, especially federal employees and government contractors. the defense industry could face billions of dollars in cuts. >> the third largest number of federal employees and probably the largest single number of federal contractors. so that federal nexus is really important to our economy. we need to end the uncertainty. >> economists say it's possible for us to "step over" the cliff. that means lawmakers will reach some kind of a deal in a few weeks after the new year begins. >>> breaking news right now. russia's president, vladimir putin, signed a controversial bill banning americans from adopting russian children. it goes into effect january 1st. there are estimates this could affect more than 1500 adoptions currently under way. the ban is widely viewed as retaliation for recent u.s. law targeting russians who abuse human rights. for a closer look at russia's proposed ban adoption, tune in to the "today"
the economy will go over the fiscal cliff. they say that reaching a deal will not be easy. >> we cannot afford a politically self-inflicted wound to the economy. the people that you sent to washington half to do with their jobs. >> mitch mcconnell was are riding on capitol hill just hours before meeting with obama. >> we are going to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful and optimistic. >> politicians on both sides have the responsibility but the president's tax hike will not do much to address the debt. >> the top 25 of american will not even pay one-third of the annual interest that is owed for this 16 trillion dollar debt. >> washington will return before the end of the year but they are likely to be burning the midnight oil. >>> we'll take a quick break on kron 4 news weekend. but first, let's take a live look outside at san francisco from our roof cam here on van ness avenue. let's take a quick look outside this morning at san francisco. outside this morning at san francisco. oh, you have a keurig vue brewer? oh, it's great! now i can brew my coffee just the way i lov
the blame game, when numbers don't turn out to be what people wanted, sandy and the fiscal cliff, we may hear other excuses come down the pike, are they legit or is it real just looking forex cus? >> i think as always true, it's a combination of the two. the economy hasn't been good for quite some time so to blame the economy is probably reaching for straws. having said that, there are some legitimate things going on that have influence. one significant one people are overlooking is i believe finally next year what's called a main street fairness act is going to pass congress. what that means is amazon and others like them are going to have to begin collecting sales taxes in states across the country and don't underestimate the significance of that. if you live in new york city and you're paying close to a 10% sales tax even though when you buy something online you would be the first to pay it, if that playing field gets leveled i think you'll see a significant movement not so much to the retail stores of the ter rest stree al retailers but to their websites. people like staples, walmart
of that looming fiscal cliff. 15 hours from right now the u.s. economy will go over that cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 6:15 the new numbers that are being thrown around this morning. >>> it is 6:07. starting tomorrow alameda county grocery stores and most other stores that sell food or alcohol cannot distribute plastic bags to their customers. in place of the single use bags stores are allowed to use paper or reusable bags but they have to charge at least a dime for each bag. customers are being encouraged to bring their own bags when shopping. restaurants can still provide plastic bags to customers. >> i'm trying to remember. >> some of the places i go they give you a discount. they give you five cents if you bring your own bag. >>> time now 6:08. tara is back to talk about your commute. you're also telling us about free rides for new years eve. >> that is right. muni is free from 8:00 tonight until 6:00 tomorrow morning.
's a lot of apprehension about the future of our economy because of the fiscal cliff. and three, people are very good about waiting for those bargains. >> reporter: some are still waiting tonight. they're on the look out for the best after christmas sales. >>> those lackluster holiday sales and jitters over the fiscal cliff brought stocks down today. the dow dropped 24 points. >>> the fiscal cliff is weighing on the minds of consumers. coming up in 16 minutes, why political insiders believe washington will allow the country to go over the cliff before making a deal. >>> san francisco police are asking the public to take a closer look at three shoplifting suspects. investigators say on december 20. three women went into two stores near san francisco. the women put goods in their own bags and walked out of the stores, and apparently handed off the goods. >> we believe these women may have been involved in other burglary thefts of retail stores throughout the bay area. >> police arrested sharony powers on suspicion of shoplifting. >>> alameda police are investigating a stabbing during a ch
, jeff. >> as we avoid the fiscal cliff and the economy picks up, and big ifs, which industries stand to add the most job? rick newman is here for u.s. news and world report. rick, nice to meet you. >> hi, how are you doing? >> you gave us a list, and interesting to pull out the theme. social networking sites, video game publishing, online payment, definitely a theme here where the growth is at. >> heard this the last couple years, obviously, it's digital, digital, digital, and real estate on the list as well. social networking. it's not a 235d, but -- a fad, but here to stay, and mobile devices, social networks follows. news sites too, not just facebook and twitter, but pinterest. there's smaller ones, niche sites, but the trends is here to stay. >> sustainable building materials, huh? >> i hate to tell you, but it's growing, and it is growing because state and local governments have new standards, not because of washington, anything happening in washington. it's not a stimulus plan, don't worry, but it's new standards. state and local governments needs buildings to be energy first t
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for the stock market. the fiscal cliff is scaring investors. stocks sank friday as the economy inches closer to going over the edge. the dow was down 120 points. the nasdaq down 29. the s&p slipped 13 and a half points. >>> the stock market is on track, though, for its fourth straight year of gains. the dow is up overall nearly 8%. the nasdaq has rallied more than 15% so far this year. the stock market is closed tomorrow for the christmas break. there will still be plenty of economic reports to sift through this week, including the latest on home prices and sales, consumer confidence and jobless claims. >>> it's not only investors but washington's failure to agree on a budget is affecting everyday americans' confidence about their finances. the university of michigan says its consumer sentiment index for december fell sharply from november's five-year high. more than one in four people surveyed cited concerns about higher taxes. >>> these are definitely the times we need comfort food the most. thank goodness twinkies, wonder bread and devil dogs could soon return to store shelves but another
on everyone immediately. if washington can't come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> you have less money in a difficult economy with little clarity. >> the economy will go down sharply. >> look at the number from the tax policy center. this is the average tax hit the families take on top of what they pay on taxes. those make between $40,000 and $50,000 pay extra $1700. >> if you manage to make over $200,000, it will be a big jump up. you will need to send a check to uncle sam for $14,000 initial dollars. $500,000 to $1 million pays $34,000 more. they want $215,000 on top of what you pay in taxes. >> the wealth manager says the money you have left as far as businesses also deal with their own tax hikes. >> you are going to see less money in your paycheck. >> the government has to bite the bullet with $1.2 trillion in spending cuts. more than half of that is to the defense budget. >> they say families may need austerity calculation before making big purchases. look at the money you have and the money you need in the future to decide if you need the next big picture. doug? >> doug: thank yo
a fiscal cliff. that's when automatic spending increases and spending cuts would take effect. -- a deal will not be easy, because both sides are involved in a high-stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline. this is a conversation we should have had months ago. clerk democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making to a hundred $50,000 or more per year. many republicans are against any tax increases. -- democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 per year. >> d.c. mayor vincent gray says the christmas eve killing on capitol hill is a rallying cry to put more police on the streets in city neighborhoods. his comments come days after jason emma was shot while parking his car in the 1
to show for itself after two years. coming up next, how the massive gains in the fiscal cliff could impact your 401k and the economy. stay with us gerri: big tax hikes set to t gerri: you make it, they take it. 23.8% is the raise that policymakers will see on capital gains. chris edwards joins me now. he is director for tax policy studies at the cato institute. i would like to show people what we're talking about. he gets confusing for people. we have a current tax rate, 15%. on january 1, the capital gains tax rate will jump to 23.8%. i talked to a lot of my friends and they say that's not a big dumb. what you say? >> it is a big jump. if you add state taxes on top of that, the united states will be up to 20%. our major trading partners, britain and europe and canada -- they are only 16%. so there is a very good reason why just about every industrial country has a really low capital gains tax rate. that's because policymakers just about everywhere know that low capital gains tax rates are crucial for a growth of economy and entrepreneurship and high-technology industries. gerri: so what i
meters. we have about 1,400 employees around the world. the fiscal cliff is scary and should be scary. another recession. higher unemployment. economic slowdown. tax money taken out of the economy. those are major concerns. we're going to have to react as a business and it could result in cutbacks. the fiscal cliff was meant to be something that nobody wanted to go anywhere near, and here we are about to go off it. we really need our elected officials to figure this out. come up with a reasonable compromise that keeps our economy growing and gives us some certain about the future so we can make our plans as business leaders. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. >>> fiscal cliff fears pushing stocks lower but we're well off tho
cliff talks heading into the 11th hour. >> u.s. economy is at stake here. >> you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both. >> but will anyone rise above and get it done? a debate from both sides of the aisle. plus guest host jason trennert on the impact for the markets. >> the final details on retail. the winners and losers as last-minute shoppers make one final rush to get the latest deals. >> i got it. i got it. >> the second hour of "squawk box" starts right now. ♪ chestnuts roasting on an open fire. jack frast nipping at your nose. yuletide carols -- >> good morning. welcome to "squawk box" on cnbc. >> love that sweater. that's unbelievable. we've got to fade in and out between the fire and that sweater. >> that's joe kernen, i'm andrew ross sorkin. becky quick is probably happily off at this point. in studios with his,000s on the market and the fiscal cliff this morning, jason trennert. >> that tie. >> he's got the red tie. >> santa tie. >> take a look at the futures, see how this half day of trading is setting up. looks like the dow
following president obama's announcement that he would cut his vacation short to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. hoping that the real estate market would bolster the economy in 2013. we are learning that holiday sales this year were the weakest since 2008. they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. a convicted felon who spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer was armed with three firearms including a bushmaster, the same gun used in the school massacre. he may have killed his sister and the home had human remains believed to be h
-minute agreement, none will see the picket signs sunday. >> economist worried if we do go off the fiscal cliff, it's now averted strike would have combined for a deadly one-two punch to the u.s. economy. now the overall deal is at 100% signed off on by februar february 6, then we are right back to where we were this morning and again the national retail federation and the florida governor rick scott will be urging president obama to prevent a strike invoking the tap partly act and something not done since president george w. bush did it in 2002. back to you. >> doug: phil keating in miami. the so-called milk cliff that would also kick in to effect the lawmakers can't avoid the fiscal cliff they be averted now. hill source tells fox news and the senate agriculture leaders working on a year long extension of all farm programs. the source noted that the truman era law is so old it would take weeks to implement. even if the old law expires don't expect immediate spike if milk prices. >>> congress is still working to find agreement on the $60.4 billion emergency spending bill for hurricane sandy victim
ditch effort to stop the economy from going over the fiscal cliff. they only have until january 1st to avoid tax increases. >> highway patrol and local law enforcement agencies will be cracking down on drunk drivers this holiday weekend. there will be more patrols and extra dui check points all over the bay area. >>> the contra costa county districts attorneys office is investigating two separate police shootings. the latest happened last night. officers were called to a chevron station around 6:40 last night. they saw a man pistol whip a woman. the two officers opened fire. the suspect was taken to the hospital where he is in critical condition this morning. the two officers have eight years of experience between them. >>> we are learning more about the walnut creek police shooting we first reported at this time yesterday. two officers responded to a 911 call from an apartment on creek side drive. the dispatcher heard screaming in the background. when officers arrived they found the suspect anthony armed with a weapon. stunned friends say he worked as a hairdresser and often medita
the u.s. economy from going off the fiscal cliff. after a late afternoon meeting with the top four congressional leaders at the white house, president obama offered this assessment. >>> i'm modestly optimistic -- nobody is going to get 100% of what they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> sources say house speaker are john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told them house leaders would consider, accept or amend their plan. what s not expected to be included in any deal is increasing the debt limit, something democrats have wanted and republicans have resisted. >> we he haded a long meeting in the white house and it was constructive. we hope that it will bear fruit. but that is what we hoped a lot. i think that the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we are able to accomplish. >> if it doesn't work president obama wants lawmakers to vote on what would essentially be plan c. here is what it would include. focusing on three key
. this isn't always a good sign about the economy. in the face of the fiscal cliff there is concern about what will happen with taxes and american consumers income in the new year. they're backing off of energy consumption. that is leading to lower prices. for the trading, overall volume is half of its 100 a average. we're seeing light participation in those markets and as of today crude down 8%. we are watching natural-gas prices as whether roles throughout the country. folks are using more natural gas pushing prices up, contrary to crude-oil prices going down, the energy report is daily, but it showed 72 cubic feet draw down in line with expectations but still a very big drawdown pushing prices higher. natural gas prices up 12% so far this year so folks are paying more to heat their homes than the same time last year. adam: thank yoo from the floor of the cme. retail sales of of the worst holiday season in four years. will there be discounts to help retailers close 2012 on a better note? joining us to talk about this is christian bets. may i call you kristy? >> yes you may. adam: a plea
. people have said that economists said concern about the fiscal cliff has already done damage. the economy, according to the cob is certain to fall back into recession and negative growth in the new year. is that higher taxes in a way a death knell for the economy or whole picture, of increased taxes and increased spending and no meaningful deficit reduction? >> we're seeing some effect already. you're seeing that in numbers on consumer confidence, on christmas season spending and business investment in hiring. the higher tacks is not the end of the republic. it is bad for growth. but we can still have a strong economy. but i do think we need to deal with uncertainty of what are taxes going forward. this cliff deal is short-term deal. we need leadership congressman was talking about. i wish it was there i agree with him what we really need going forward. lori: congressman rigell, one last comment from you with regards to confidence in washington of the americans are fed up with the wheeling and dealing in washington and no compromise. is there anything you can say to reinforce our confiden
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about the economy even if you take the fiscal cliff off the table. the suggestion was actually that coming into this we're actually in a much better position given the housing situation, given some of the new energy things that are going on, that maybe all of this doom and gloom is unfounded. fair? unfair? >> fair. undoubtedly we're in a better position today than we were a year ago. the housing market has healed. companies, especially the big companies, are doing great. they have lots of cash, and consumer household balances are improving. so undoubtedly, the economy is healing slowly. but it's not healing at a critical mass. so unless government sorts out the headwinds, unless government corrects market failures and public goods issues, we're not going to have enough critical mass to get into higher growth, lower unemployment, and better income equality. that's the issue. >> that's the issue now. but mohamed, just going back and trying to figure out why the market hasn't reacted more strongly do this you think it's more of a bet on the fed than on the idea that we do see some
and really clarified what the fiscal cliff means to personal finance. that debate really seems to be acting, it's almost creating a sense of gravity that's pulling down different elements of the economies. >> now, remember what they're reporting here is a 0.7% gain in sales year on year. it's not about margins, not about excess inventory, not about how profitable they've been. that's why some of these stocks have fallen to an even greater extent as you can see. macy's, coach, gap, sears and nordstrom in negative territory. this is the first read we've had on the sales for the season until these guys come through one by one with their own figures. >> that's right. virtually every retailer down at this hour. weak sales of course heading into the holidays, but will retailers see a post-christmas bump? jane wells live at the grove in los angeles where card-carrying shoppers are looking for deals. >> reporter: people are here carrying bags in for returns, carrying bags out with new purchases, but some retailers are actually developing entire strategies for what's happening starting today. macy's
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to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because both sides are involved in a high stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at wah he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline and as i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> reporter: democrats want to extend the bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more a year. many republicans are against any tax increases. most americans just want something to be done. >> people are just tired of partisanship and they want everyone to come together. >> reporter: if lawmakers don't reach a deal by january 1, many economists are concerned it could eventually lead to another recession. i'm
debt ceiling. you think the fiscal cliff thing is bad for the economy. you wait and see if they can't get the debt ceiling worked out. >> right. it's one thing to go over the fiscal cliff. that would be bad. we don't want to it happen. a recession may happen. it would be unfortunate. it's different than the u.s. defaulting on the debt. you know, we saw that back in august, 2011, we saw the downgrade of the credit rating. just by having the threat of not approving the debt ceiling increase and the possibility of default. it comes around again at the end of february, beginning of march. it's a time when there's a deal. if the deal does not include the debt ceiling, more damaging effects on the confidence. >> here we go again. neil irwin, it's good. economic editor. three ways they can mess this thing up next year. thank you so much. we'll talk to you again soon. we are 20 minutes to the top of the hour now. there have been major setbacks in the deal talks. we are just getting this news, a major setback in negotiations over a fiscal cliff deal. senator reid, according to democratic sou
. that is being discussed as part of a fiscal cliff deal but money believe that will hurt the economy and giving a disincentive to invest money. is that just focused on the real wealthy? >> i hear that argument a lot. number one, i'm really tired of our tax policy decisions and everything being made by what the market is going to do in the next quarter. look, this is an aberration and the tax code and grossly unfair. you look at say they raise tax rates, the top tax rate to 39.6% for those making more than $500,000, that's going to mean a lot of small businesses are going to pay that nearly 40% marginal tax rate where you have billionaire private equity funds paying 15, 20 or even 24 depending on where they put it. not an issue of penalizing investment income but penalizing labor and those who make their income through wages and they should both be taxed at the same rate. i do, again, fundam and at least raising the capital gains rate would help address this anomaly and susan collins and clara mccasical give legitimate -- you have billionaire equity managers paying 39%. i think this is a source
of fiscal-cliff type episodes. another debt ceiling debate coming up early part of next year, as well. >> yes, we do. >> i hope we can get leadership. >> okay, thanks, dylan glenn, thanks so much. >>> so what could the fiscal cliff mean for wall street and your retirement fund? i'm going to ask independent new york stock exchange trader in about one hour from now. >>> all right. let's switch gears here. because after newtown, gun buybacks are making headlines across the country. >>> and we're going to tell you how donors funded the biggest buyback ever in one connecticut town. i know. i'm will, and this is the nokia lumia 920 from at&t. it's got live tiles so all my stuff's always right there in real-time. it's like the ultimate personal assistant. but i'm me, and me needs handlers. so i hired todd to handle it for me. todd, gimme that hollywood news! what's happening on twitter? you're trending! yes! you can't have a todd, but you can have your own personal assistant. i guess you could call it todd. [ male announcer ] the new nokia lumia 920 with live tiles that deliver what you want
policy. here we are on the doorstep after new year and the economy falling off the fiscal cliff. as a result businesses and individuals are facing some of the biggest uncertainties and questions in decades. regardless of what congress does or doesn't do to deal with the year-end fiscal cliff, it is too late for employers to accurately withhold income taxes from paychecks. payroll increases start january 1. but talks drag on of how to ad
the bill through without pulling the fiscal cliff, our economy will improve the tax revenues from that will be more than he would get from the rich now. host: appreciate the call. let's go to oklahoma, a line for republicans. caller: i am so disgusted with both political parties. it seems they are putting their party before their country. and i want these politicians to know they are the ones that have been up there for years and spent all this money and now the average person will be the one who will have to pay, and i believe they are being bought off by the 2%. right is right, wrong is wrong, and to take away from the needy and cut food stamps from people who qualify -- it takes an act of congress to qualify. i cannot understand that these people are protecting the 2% of the country. host: jefferson city, missouri, you are on. go ahead. caller: yeah, i think boehner should be removed from the speaker of the house, and president obama should be in and his entire staff, including hillary clinton. i do not know if you have noticed but nancy pelosi, her eyes are consistently dilate
you need. come on. with the lingering worries tonight after weak economy and the looming fiscal cliff, many consumers are left saying bah humbug. here is brenda buttner, senior business correspondent and anchor of bulls and bears. >> harris, they are filling up the stores, but not emptying out their wallets. after a strong black friday, this holiday shopping season may not have a strong finish. consumer confidence is at a five month low and shopper track, cut its forecast for holiday spending down to 2.5% increase rf the expectations of 3.3% rise. what does it mean? remember, the holiday season is huge for retailers. it can make up about a third of annual sales and half of profit for many chains, this final stretch is especially key as many buyers wait to get the deepest discounts. retailers are cutting. big discounts hit this final shopping weekend. better late than never perhaps for those looking for deals, but profits could suffer. almost anytime you save 50% off, retailers may be losing money. looking for a grinch in all this? d.c. gets the blame. the increasing chance we may fall
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should have acted months ago to keep the u.s. economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz. i hope we can get something done on the last day. we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> the two people were senate republican lea leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden who worked the phones after talks between mcconnell and harry reid stalled. >> discussions continue today on plan to affect the middle class families from the tax increase tomorrow. there are a number of issues in which the two sides are still apart. negotiations are continuing as i speak. >> the agreement would set the threshold for extending the bush tax cuts at $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families. i would set the tax rate for upper income people at 39.6%. the rate under president clinton. the states would be taxed at 40% above $5 million for individuals and $10 million for a married couple. unemployment benefits would be extented a year, as with the medicare doc fix. it would permanently fix th
the democratic controlled senate to lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. congress people from both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution. that is the leadership that america needs, not what we saw from the president this morning ." those of the comments from speaker boehner. the house has gaveled out. we expect them back in about two hours. let's go to newbury port. caller: thank you for c-span. i do not understand where this $250,000 number comes from. i am 70 and have never been asked to make a sacrifice by any congress. it just seems to me that if the average income in most states -- to ask people making $125,000 or more, to ask them to contribute more, that seems to be a no- brainer. i do not see why people in this country are not ready to make a compromise. let's face it, we will either all have to pay slightly more taxes and accept the fact that our benefits are going to have to be lower than they really are -- i am in that bracket of $125,000 to $250,000. i am very comfortable, i could contribute more to the deficit, i just want to make sure that that money goes to
the fiscal cliff dividend taxes could triple. and that would have a significantly negative impact on our economy's ability to sustain growth. and think about, you know, this idea, this false idea, frankly, that it won't impact anybody that makes less than 250,000 or whatever the cap is you want. >> right. >> our average age of people that own dividend-paying stocks is about 65 years old. their average income is between 70 to $75,000. yeah, they're not subject to the $250,000 but in fact, if you reduce the after tax yield of these kinds of investments that people select because of their low risk and they use the dividends to supplement their retirement income, if you reduce the after tax yield, stock values drop. we have already seen that. david: because of all this breaking news i want to bring you back and i really want to focus you a little more specifically and dividend tax is something you're hot about but i want to talk to you about whether you're getting squeezed. i'm looking at 300 to $400 billion gap the president will have even after the tax increases. i think he will go after y
ahead? steve liesman has that for us. >> this could be the fiscal cliff game at home report. now that there is a plan in motion, can you see some of the things that are in play here. the revenue side of the fiscal cliff $520 billion, spending side, $130 billion. some piece of that is going to go away if indeed they do end up capping the increases of those at $400,000, 450 and above. we don't know how much. perhaps the vast bulk of it could go away. no discussion on wlornt automatic spending cuts for this year would be affected at all. there's the total 650. impact of the total fiscal cliff this year and by way of contrast or comparison, here is the gdp effect. we gained in nominal terms and that's why going over the cliff means negative growth, it means a recession. here is some of the detail of what we ever talking about here. 620 billion. that's the total revenue. depends on which numbers you use. moving on, per capitia effect, it affects different people differently. 26.2 million is the number of americans that will see an increase in taxes subject to amt that alternate taxati
budget deficit. >> the japanese fiscal cliff will be larger than the one in the united states, because japan's financial burden is considerably heavier than the other developed nations. in order for japan to put its fiscal house in order to, japan is launching a tax hike soon. there's one important condition for japan to do that. that is to observe stable growth by the time the taxes will be raised. this government, it has to be eager to boost its economy so that you can see an uptick of growth in the first half of next year. >> toyota is having its largest ever safety crisis, but it will cost more than a billion dollars. japanese automakers selling with customers in the u.s. will say that their vehicle suddenly exploded for no reason. about 16 million vehicles were sold between 1998 and 2010. investors are relieved the payout was not even bigger. shares ended the day a little in tokyo. -- up a little. israeli-arab politician is appealing to the supreme court after she was barrestole the american dream, thursday, 30 eastern, 7:00 p.m. pacific. >> welcome back. a reminder of our top sto
. with less than 48- hours until the u-s economy goes over what's being called the fiscal cliff - lawmakers are locked in a fierce face-off over a set of spending cuts and tax hikes. >>> "we're apart on some pretty big issues." "i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner." >> reporter: on n-b-c's meet the press, president obama made a final pitch for his plan to preserve bush era tax cuts for everyone but the wealthiest americans. >>> "regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up that would hurt our economy badly." >> reporter: a major sticking point continues to be the annual income level at which those tax increases should kick in. the threshold has wavered from 250-thousand dollars to as high as one-million dollars. republicans argue the country doesn't have a tax revenue problem, it has a spending problem. "unless we do something about spending, the government will continue to get bigger and the deficit will continue to get bigger." >> reporter: following the president's interview, speaker of t
the economy from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. they have less than a week to come up with a solution or everybody's taxes are going up. >>> you need to get ready for some round-the-clock gaming action at maryland live casino. beginning tomorrow customers will be able to enjoy nonstop action 24/7, 365. casino doors will swing open and remain open beginning at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow. >>> you want to see the raven's wildcard playoff game? tickets are available, but there are not a lot of them. a few thousand tickets will be available for public sale beginning this friday at 10:00 a.m. the ravens will play january 5th or 6th. you can get tickets through ticket master. >>> today is the first day of quawns a. it's a celebration of community, family and culture. the weeklong festivities end with a feast and exchange of gifts. unity, self-determination, collective work and responsibility, economics, creativity and earth. >>> well, from christmas sales to christmas music 24/7, it is easy to forget that a lot of people don't celebrate the holiday. jewish volunteers in park heights may not observ
the list. >>> and congress, running out of time to stop the u.s. economy from going over the fiscal cliff. jamie dupree is in washington, d.c. where new numbers are being tossed around this morning. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the playroom. no. we had to watch movies in the den because that's where the tv outlet was. and if dad was snoring on the couch, we muscled through it. is she for real? your generation has it made. [ male announcer ] the wireless receiver only from at&t u-verse. get u-verse tv for $29 a month for six months. rethink possible. >>> stocks are mixed. they were found for a while. that would be down for the fifth day in a row. the five-day losing streak for the dow would be the longest since july. the dow you can see it's turned positive. it's up just slightly. the nasdaq is also up 22. s&p down 4. now, u.s. stocks are not the only indexes affected. the major european indexes are d
bargain. so i don't really buy the aurm that if you smooth out the fiscal cliff, then you go on and do other things. >> with the speed bump, if you're going too slow, which the economy is, if it's a big one, you go up and you might want make it over. and then if you're going too fast, you go up in the air, take out your transmission. >> what happens if you have a low car? >> it's bad. you hurt your undercarriage. but spain and the undercarriage is not something any of us need. but i think that howard dean, we didn't have time to go back and get howard and stuff. but howard said the best deal the democrats are going to get is to go over the fiscal cliff. taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position
that the fiscal cliff is disadvantageous to the economy in terms of jobs and taxes but if we know we are going over the cliff that provides policy certainty that allows corporations to act within the certainty of the new tax regime that comes out of it and it will help the deficit. i am speaking anathema but that is certainty. shibani: 70 -- dennis: something wins and the economy could make stocks right at some point. thank you very much, jim laventhol. here's one retail segment that did great. gun, rifle and ammunition sales are skyrocketing following the backlash against guns at the connecticut elementary school. the world's largest supplier of firearms says it sold 3.5 years worth of ammunition clips for automatic weapons in just three days and a gun shop owner north carolina says gun sales for christmas or four times better than last year. many customers blame talk of stricter gun control for driving the rush. unintended consequences. let's look at gun stocks. the images that so smith and wesson, they are down. the middle of their sales are probably up. shibani: one of the most profitable
's still no deal preventing the economy from going over the fiscal cliff. members of congress are pointing fingers over who is to blame for the lack of progress to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts. connecticut's independent senator joe lieberman expects congress to work right up to the new year's eve deadline. but he's not even sure that's going to be enough. >> it's the first time i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks right now. due back later in the week. one possibility is a partial deal on taxes while putting off an agreement on spending, therefore kind of kicking some of the can down the road, once again. >> and that seems to be what congress is good at. no problem ever gets solved. there's no grand bargain. we heard that term tossed around. seems like we just do a little bit and then say oh, we'll get to it by summer and get to it by the fall. and nothing substantive really g
about on the rise and a sales surge. we have retail and economy news. everyone talking about fiscal cliff, taxes going up. a little detail not many people talking about, but will get their attention if you say your milk prices could double, triple? >> got milk, t.j.? talking about the dairy cliff. and the conchalgressional agricultural committee will come together. the price of milk will increase. right now, a gallon of milk about $3.50. set to go up to -- get this. $8 by january. if this new man isn't implemented. part of the talks that's going on with the president. they hope this will move forward. nobody wants the price of milk to be drink up. >> farm bill, it maybe goes over their heads. but i tell somebody that $8 for a gallon, they pay attention. >> this is a farm bill they really want to concentrate on. who wants to pay $8 a gallon for milk. >> this isn't the only thing that could shoot up. >> right. we're also talking about grocery prices too. about 12 different items will go up in 2013. some of the main ones, fwrogroc prices up 4%. the reason why, remember the drought that
hours from right now the u.s. economy will go over the fiscal cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight east coast time income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 5:15 the two men leading the last minute negotiations. >>> the chp is trying to figure out what led up to a crash that killed a motorcycle rider in concord last night. it happened just before 6:30 on kicker pass road. the chp says no other cars were involved and it's unclear why the driver lost control. >>> three people are recovering after a crash after a car crashed into a concord funeral home. it happened yesterday afternoon at the we met brothers concord funeral chop ill on clayton road. it appears two teens were racing when they lost control and crashed their car into the building. the teens were taken to the hospital with serious injuries. a 66-year-old man who was inside the building has a broken leg. police interviewed a second driver that may have been racing the teens but have no arrests yet. >>> police officers are o
. stocks sank friday as the economy inches closer to the fiscal cliff. the dow down 120. the nasdaq down 29. still the stock market is on track for its fourth straight year of gains. the dow sup nearly 8%. the -- is up nearly 8%. the nasdaq has rallied more than 15%. so far this year. the stock market is closed for christmas. more economic reports to sift through the rest of the week, including home prices and sales and consumer confidence and jobless claims. >>> washington's failure to agree on a budget is affecting americans's confidence in finances. consumer sentiment index for december fell sharply from november's five-year high. more than one in four people surveyed cited concerns about higher taxes. before we go to break, i want to tell you again to donate to st. jude's children's hospital and help the courys' dream come true. text light at 5 -- text life to 50333 to donate $10. >>> redskins hang on to victory over the eagles. rg3's return and his playoff implications. we'll be right back. >>> howard here with your weather first. going to be a raw day. rain will be developing. eight g
: what about the fiscal cliff and what that could do to the economy, the consumer and the consumer that would buy hp products, how concerned are you? >> well, that's certainly a short-term negative. and i can't -- i can't forecast what washington is going to do, but i think over the long-term, they've got the stuff to build around that you will see the stock do pretty well. ashley: all right. that's your prediction. we will see how it goes. in 2013 for hewlett-packard, thank you, george putnam, new generation research founder. really appreciate it. thank you. >> you're very welcome. thank you. ashley: all right. closing bell rings in just under 7 minutes. restaurants could face a tough year ahead. but oppenheimer says one restaurant can beat the odds. find out which one is the bright spot for 2013. that's coming up next. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen anjeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they' gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money.
conversations we'll have a bipartisan solution, because nobody wants to go over this fiscal cliff. it will damage our economy. it will hurt every taxpayer, the largest tax increase in history. it will affect everybody, and anyone who is watching who thinks, oh this isn't going to impact me, you will fin out d o will, and we know the problem is a lot of spending. not that we're not taxing people more, we're just spending too much. we hope that the president understands that as for as republicans are concerned, we're willing to negotiate and have a civil conversation, but also he's got to bring in some spending cuts and tax reform, because americans want tax reform and we don't want to hurt the economy, and, look there, are not enough millionaires in the united states to tax them all to be able to spend our way out of this problem. so let's -- let's give up a little bit -- each side can concede a little. and i think we can fin middle ground. i'm optimistic. >> we had your colleague nan hayworth last hour. she was expecting work to be done in the senate. the house did its best, boehn
to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will over the so- called fiscal cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids played soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should all be here. i told the president that i would be happy to look at what ever he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline here and as i said this is the conversation that we should have had months ago. >> democrats want to extend the bush era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making too much as $50,000 or more a year. if many republicans remain against any tax increases. >> former president george agent w. bush is still in intensive care at a houston hospital this morning. the former president's family is confident that he will be out of the i see you soon. the 88 year-old has been in the hospital for more than a month, after first coming down with bronchitis. >> it is nine 07 a.m.. we will be right back. there has been a major news from the gulf of mexico. here
that happens with the fiscal cliff. >> who gets us through that? anyone left? >> well, your guess is as good as mine. white house people say that obama refuses to negotiate and he believes that the public is behind him, but it is not a compelling argument no the house republica republican, and that is the huge danger that people are focusing on which is the debt limit, because it is not part of the discussions, and that means we will go through it again in 60 or 90 days. >> thank you, josh green from bloomberg business. that is "hardball" for now, and coming up next is "your business" with jj ramberg. that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. see what's new from campbell's. progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? ye
the uncertainty the fiscal cliff has wrought in the economy. here's an interesting comment from senator tim johnson, your colleague, a democrat. sometimes all the market takes is to make them see the light. that is via politico. if you don't get a deal and the markets are closed tomorrow, and you open to a couple of really big down days, is that all it takes to strike a deal? >> i hope not. hopefully congress has learned what failure to strike a deal can mean to the american economy. >> is that thought still fresh? >> it's fresh in our mind. i remember the deal we had to pass on t.a.r.p. to help our financial markets. i don't want to revisit that again. >> we've heard all kinds of stuff this morning. as you noi, senator, you probably hear this from your constituents, they're so disinterested in the process, they're so disinterested in the sausage being made. what they want to know if that there are like minded, good, smart people in that congress we're looking at right now who all have phones and blackberrys and actually work in the same building. is there enough good will to ensure that a
. >> the president says he's optimistic, congressional leaders promise avivement why the fiscal cliff compromise will be a cliff hanger. >> and a step back in time. how you can buy a piece of the past from your favorite ride. >> grieve, i'm elizabeth cook. >> a man and child pull from the waters and sadly, neither survived. the coast gash got the call of two people in the warter near point bonita. alyssa is there. >> reporter: the bodies were taken to fort baker. the man and young boy were at black sands beach. known for it's beautiful views of the city and treacherous surf. this stretch of coastline in sausalito is where a man and child were swept to sea and drowned. they were found floating under the golden gate bridge. late this afternoon, around 4:00, a third person who was taken out by the waves was able to get out of the surf and call 911. >> rescue united arrived and recovered two bodies, one male adult and one child. >> reporter: the water, a chilly 53 degrees. there was a high surf advisory. the beach is popular for fishing and picnics an it is dangerous with steep paths an rocks. it wa
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